I love these podcasts for a variety of reasons mostly for the open dialogue. I think you are missing one thing. Many commentators on both the right and left seem to think that Neil Young is the one who will lose because Joe Rogan is so popular and blah blah blah. In this specific moment you are absolutely correct, however; Joe Rogan will not pass the "Beatle test". In 50 years people will still be listening to Neil Young. In 50 years no one will remember who Joe Rogan was.
Feb 2, 2022·edited Feb 2, 2022Liked by Sonny Bunch
I appreciate this discussion and its an example of why I subscribe. One of my favorite points I continue to see on The Bulwark is the need to get out into our communities and have conversations with people we may not agree with. I don't think there is any substitute for the examples which we set in our own personal sphere.
I know this sounds preachy but In a free society, one of the most important disciplines we can practice is to allow others to have their opinions even if those opinions are going to, as many think, lead to "...the end life as we know it...", but aren't they all? A lot of the polarization and toxicity exists because it seems we keep wanting to "save the world" by shutting down opinions we may view as a threat. The net result of that kind of approach is probably loss of trust for our own position, at best, and, worse, outright defiance from the "other side", whatever that may be.
Frank Lee is the quality of critical thinker and voter who make the Josh Hawleys possible. As JVL has recently noted, the problems of the republican party are problems of the base. See comments below.
I’m tired of corporations supporting misinformation and anti-democratic politicians and groups. Not many people are making a stand. It’s really time to make a public stand. I completely support a Neil Young. Spotify is supporting horse crap and worse.
I think that people keep mistaking what Young was doing. He never though that he would change Spotify. He simply wanted to get something out there. No one listened or cared when hundreds of medical professionals sent an open letter to Rogan. Now people are talking about it. Anyway, I got tired of the conversation and decided to just play some Neil Young from Apple Music.
I love these podcasts for a variety of reasons mostly for the open dialogue. I think you are missing one thing. Many commentators on both the right and left seem to think that Neil Young is the one who will lose because Joe Rogan is so popular and blah blah blah. In this specific moment you are absolutely correct, however; Joe Rogan will not pass the "Beatle test". In 50 years people will still be listening to Neil Young. In 50 years no one will remember who Joe Rogan was.
Sure, Rogan is spreading lies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1QgkdDXlao
I appreciate this discussion and its an example of why I subscribe. One of my favorite points I continue to see on The Bulwark is the need to get out into our communities and have conversations with people we may not agree with. I don't think there is any substitute for the examples which we set in our own personal sphere.
I know this sounds preachy but In a free society, one of the most important disciplines we can practice is to allow others to have their opinions even if those opinions are going to, as many think, lead to "...the end life as we know it...", but aren't they all? A lot of the polarization and toxicity exists because it seems we keep wanting to "save the world" by shutting down opinions we may view as a threat. The net result of that kind of approach is probably loss of trust for our own position, at best, and, worse, outright defiance from the "other side", whatever that may be.
Frank Lee is the quality of critical thinker and voter who make the Josh Hawleys possible. As JVL has recently noted, the problems of the republican party are problems of the base. See comments below.
I fully subscribe to Sonny's (to all three, in fact) point of view on Young v Rogan. The 20mins of discussion in this episode are a must-listen
A Hero sounds so good I want to watch in theaters.
Props on the WAPO piece.
I’m tired of corporations supporting misinformation and anti-democratic politicians and groups. Not many people are making a stand. It’s really time to make a public stand. I completely support a Neil Young. Spotify is supporting horse crap and worse.
These old hippies use to protest for freedom of speech and expression. This is just another example of why kids should not do drugs.
I think that people keep mistaking what Young was doing. He never though that he would change Spotify. He simply wanted to get something out there. No one listened or cared when hundreds of medical professionals sent an open letter to Rogan. Now people are talking about it. Anyway, I got tired of the conversation and decided to just play some Neil Young from Apple Music.